Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Mia Healy: And I saw that success deepened on how well we aligned with the
institution's culture and capacity for change. Right. It's kind of like, I always love using this
analogy. If you've ever been fly fishing and you have a fly fishing instructor, they may say, like,
once you got a fish on the line, like, you've got to dance kind of with the fish and you've got to
work with the fish is like, that's how change happens in higher ed is like, you kind of have to
dance with the change, like, dance with the systems that you're working with because you can't
bring, like, disruption because that's not where change is meaningful.
[00:00:36] Jeff Dillon: Welcome to another episode of the EdTech Connect podcast.
Creativity is quickly becoming the new campus currency, and today's guest is helping
universities invest in it wisely. Mia Healy is a dynamic leader at the intersection of education,
technology, and entrepreneurship. Currently serving as a higher education consultant at canva,
she empowers colleges and universities to elevate creativity, collaboration, and digital
storytelling across campuses. With a consultative student first approach, Mia partners with
institutional leaders to drive adoption of canva's platform. From classroom innovation to strategic
communications, her professional journey spans leadership roles at Moda Labs and
organizational development at California State University, Sacramento. A former president of the
Cal State Student Association, Mia represented nearly half a million students and has been
honored with multiple leadership awards. She now also serves on the Women in Leadership
board at uccs. Mentoring emerging female leaders from boardrooms to classrooms, Mia's
mission is to support the next generation of creators and change makers in higher education.
Well, welcome to the show, Mia. It's great to have you today.
[00:01:59] Mia Healy: Thanks, Jeff. It's great to be here with you.
[00:02:01] Jeff Dillon: So I didn't say this in your intro, but Mia and I have worked together or at
the university where I used to work, Mia was the president, as I said in her intro, the student
body president. And we started this, we called it the stag, the Student Technology Advisory
Group, because Mia was into tech and wanted to really connect the students with. It was really
cool. So we go way back and then she went off in her career and has been in a B2B, B2C
companies and. Well, let's just start off Mia with tell me a creative project, professional or
personal, that really recently brought you joy.
[00:02:40] Mia Healy: Yeah, you know, I was thinking, like, kind of everything these days feels
like a creative project.
I was thinking like, oh, my gosh, there's so much. You're just kind of putting a lot of thought into
different things that you're working on. And we just got a new house. And so trying to decorate
and design the house and then also upkeep different things. But I will say a really meaningful
project that I just worked on. It was more on the personal side. And I recently created a digital
keepsake sake to celebrate our daughter's first birthday.
And it reminded me just like how design can make memories so tangible. Like, I was using AI to
help me build it. Normally, I would, like, take my watercolors out and start sketching something
and put some color on paper. But being a little more time strapped than usual, I wanted to put
something digital together and then see if I can, like, maybe scale it every year create kind of
this digital keepsake of like a year in reflection of what it was like every year.
[00:03:35] Jeff Dillon: That my little kind of like a digital scrapbook thing.
[00:03:38] Mia Healy: Exactly. Yep.
[00:03:39] Jeff Dillon: What I'm curious, what tool did you use?
[00:03:41] Mia Healy: I use Canva.
[00:03:43] Jeff Dillon: I didn't know that. I figured, okay, great.
[00:03:46] Mia Healy: Gotta drink my own champagne, Jeff.
[00:03:49] Jeff Dillon: Way to start strong there, Mia.
[00:03:50] Mia Healy: Yeah, you got it.
[00:03:52] Jeff Dillon: So you've had an impressive journey from student leadership to
empowering institutions at canva. What first sparked your passion for education and technology?
[00:04:04] Mia Healy: Well, Jeff, you know this story all too well. Just because, as you
mentioned, you and I go way back to when I was a student leader, and you helped really spark
my passion for technology and just all that was possible. But I think even before I knew it and
knew the potential of technology on campus and how we can really harness it to. To support
impact and initiatives for students really all started because of my experience as a struggling
student. You know, I know college for some students, really, the stakes are kind of low. Go to
class, spend some time with your friends, study, maybe go out on the weekends, take an
internship or two. And that's really what I thought college would be like for me. But, boy, was I
wrong. I took it in so many different directions, and I think it's really because the stakes were so
much higher. It felt like, for me, I was kind of on borrowed time. Finance was very challenging for
me through college, trying to fund school. And so it was kind of like, gotta hustle, gotta see how I
can help out and really optimize my experience. And at first, I really struggled to find my footing
and a sense of belonging. And so I learned that it was pretty common for CSU students to go
through that.
And being that it was like, really a shared ecosystem of students that were also struggling with
belonging, struggling with finances, struggling to, like, really make college work for them, I kind
of made it my Mission to make education a lot more approachable, personalized, even
spearheading financial aid, reform things as a statewide student leader and help, really,
institutions maximize the time that they have with students and vice versa. So as I became
involved in student leadership, I started to then uncover different strengths that I had. And I
learned that we. One of my strengths was seeing both sides of a campus system and how it
operates. On one hand, you've got the incredible creativity and potential of students and
educators, and then on the other hand, you have some of the barriers that some of the outdated
systems in higher education really create, either intentionally or unintentionally. And so early in
my career, I really realized that technology could be the equalizer, really helping design
technology with empathy and purpose, meeting students where they were. That's why I've really
devoted my work to bridging that gap and helping institutions use technology, not just to digitize
processes. Like, you know, when we were on the stag together, it was really more about, like,
reimagining what a meaningful learning and connection experience looked like for students and
really to help ensure that higher ed continues to be worth it. Right. Like, all of the work that
faculty put into their curriculum, all the work that staff put into their programming, and that
students devote so much time into higher ed. Like, we want to still make sure that it's worth it,
and we're making an impact and evolving, and so that's kind of where things first kick off.
[00:07:01] Jeff Dillon: I love that you mentioned early on seeing both sides of academia, and it
reminded me of the story. I didn't. It didn't come to me until you said that when one of your
shining moments that I saw, like, maybe she will keep going with this, was we got approval for
Mia to go to this conference, and it was for a vendor we were working with, call Moto Labs, and
they had a great user conference they put on every year. And it was pretty rare to bring a
student to this conference. But we got approval to bring Mia. We got the funding for it. She
shows up to be on the student panel at this conference. It was in Chicago. Always remember
where it was, because Roosevelt University is in Chicago. And they had a couple students on
the panel, too. The panel was about just what's the student's perspective on technology in
general. I can't remember the actual topics, but the bottom line was that Mia kind of stole the
show. One of your strengths is being able to talk to people and understand the technology and
interpreting it.
So after the conference or even during the conference, I think one of the co founders came up to
me. He said, we want me to work here. Can you kind of put in a good word? Like, Motor Labs
was what was recruiting you? And she was. Mia was a junior, right? Weren't you a junior as the
president?
[00:08:08] Mia Healy: I was, yeah.
[00:08:09] Jeff Dillon: Like, you guys, hold on. She has a year left, but we'll. We'll work on it. But
yeah, fast forward. A couple years later, she was working at Motor Labs and got into tech. So I
just had to tell that story because it was really cool to see Mia shine at that conference.
[00:08:21] Mia Healy: Yeah, no, that was so fun, Jeff. And I remember it's because of the work
we did. Like, we went to that conference, right, because we won the SAC State mobile app, won
the best most innovative app award of the year. And so we went to accept that award and then
also share some of our learnings along the way. And you know what? I think we won the most
innovative award, of course, because of the work that we did around basic needs with the app
and supporting campus basic needs for students. But I think what was really important and like,
kind of the maybe like the through line, through this whole chat too is, is like focus, right? Like, I
think when we were strategizing on technology on campus, it's about focus because you could
just. Digital transformation could go in a bazillion directions and you can be going down rabbit
holes trying to chase expectations of what people think of digital transformation on campus and
trying to meet people with where they're at. Everyone wants a different tool. There's so much
tech sprawl, but, like, we had very lasered focus on optimizing the app for very specific needs,
and it worked and pretty cool stuff. I think that's. That's what got us there too.
[00:09:30] Jeff Dillon: The one thing we did that you're talking like one of the parts of the app,
there's a few things wrapped them to the basic needs. Support buzz. It was the. The app that
notified students when there was free food left on campus after a big event. And I remember us,
the hard thing was to get the buy in. Like, we got dining services on, but really about
communicating that this is out there. Get the app because you can get notified when there's free
food, because there was a lot of students that didn't have access to that. And we'd present this
at a conference, a couple conferences, and people almost. They didn't quite get it. It was almost
like a novelty at other schools that people would have that struggle. So it was really. California
was kind of a leader in that way, I think showing, you know, we always have that data and we
have that issue. But it was so memorable. It was great working with you on that.
[00:10:17] Mia Healy: Yeah.
[00:10:17] Jeff Dillon: Let's talk a little bit more about your student time. When you were the
president of the Cal State Student association, how did that shape your approach to leadership?
Bridging over to the Ed Tech?
[00:10:28] Mia Healy: Yeah, I mean, there's just so many layers to that experience. So being the
president of the Cal State Student association, you know, representing half a million students in
an extremely diverse state with extremely diverse students, and a system that has so many of its
own nuances between the Northern California campuses, the Southern California campuses,
and then the Central Valley, like there are just, I mean, as many microclimates as there are in
state of California, there are 10 times as many microclimates within the CSU system.
And so supporting that whole system and the students in it was a challenge worth rising to.
And it really gave me a lot of insight that I think also lended itself to my work in ed tech because,
you know, we were really at the forefront of education policy decisions, education funding, both
at a state and federal level. Right. Like, I think my senior year I traveled over 100 days in the
calendar year to different legislative offices. My faculty were so gracious. I did a lot of negotiating
with them to just help make sure I graduated on time.
But really it took a lot of innovation. And working with so many different folks across the
institution, I think it taught me that meaningful change in education really requires a lot of
alignment between stakeholders around shared goals. Right. And I really mean like all
stakeholders. So of course we were the student leaders. But then you've got so many different
administrators and technology partners, faculty, folks that are all having like a really same
mission, but like, making sure that we're pulling the rope in the same direction was. Was
challenging. And oftentimes I think the most asked question I had when I was a student leader
was like, how do you reach students? How do we get a hold of students and share all these
resources and share these ideas with them? And really it came down to like again, meeting them
where they are with tools that they're already using and trying to understand like the
undercurrent of what they're going through. And so in ed Tech, I think I carry that same lesson
forward is I see leadership in general not as a top down decision making body, but really as like
ecosystem building and ensuring that every voice from the classroom down to the president's
office really has a hand in shaping how technology transforms learning. And how we're also
being more nimble. I think that's inherently a challenge in the DNA of colleges and universities is
they're not necessarily built to be very nimble. But how can we look at the systems we have and
be nimble within them in some way? Because the industry is always just like a little step ahead
of higher ed. And so ensuring that higher ed can be in lockstep with industry to ensure that
students are ready for the workforce and prepared. All of those things that I was thinking that
were swirling in my mind as a student leader still swirl in my mind today of, like, how are we
helping campuses achieve their outcomes, their mission that's unique to their institution, but just
from the outside of the campus.
[00:13:32] Jeff Dillon: This time as you talk, I never realized how much you did travel. I do
remember now you telling me that back in the day, but it makes me think you had this
experience. I'll equate it to my experience a little bit. Where I worked in higher ed for so long, I
learned the culture. I learned how slow moves, the challenges, the silos of technology.
You learned it a different way because often if you're just. You're just a student, you don't get
that. You were a student leader. You even worked there for a hot minute. I know. I don't know if it
was a year or whatever, but you were working SAC State for a while there. You know, I say see
that as a real benefit because I went into tech on the other side, and trying to market or sell to
higher ed from that perspective really helps.
I'm like, you really had a deeper perspective than most students probably would have with all
your experience.
[00:14:17] Mia Healy: When you're a student, you're on borrowed time. Right. It's like, you have
a very short window to make change and to make it stick. And I know there are student leaders
that came before me. They're like, I want to have a legacy on campus. I want to erect a statue
that I can come on campus 10 years later and I can say, I raised funds for that statue and that's
why it's here. But for me, it was systematic. It's like, how can I help shift the culture in a way very
quickly and in a meaningful way that will.
[00:14:44] Jeff Dillon: Stay when I leave. That's hard to do. Yeah. But I don't know. Maybe the
stag is still going. We should check.
[00:14:49] Mia Healy: We should check in on that.
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[00:15:18] Jeff Dillon: But let's jump to Moto Labs. Okay, so you leave SAC State, you start
working at modalabs. You lead a team focused on customer success and higher ed. What
lessons did you take with you that continues to guide you now at Canva?
[00:15:33] Mia Healy: So my time at Moto Labs really taught me that technology adoption in
higher ed is rarely about the tech itself.
It is about trust, timing, and people. Right. So the Moto product is absolutely fantastic. And we
were really helping campuses build mobile ecosystems that touched every part of the student life
cycle. And I saw that success deepened on how well we aligned with the institution's culture and
capacity for change. Right. It's kind of like, I always love using this analogy. If you've ever been
fly fishing and you have a fly fishing instructor, they may say, like, once you got a fish on the line,
like, you've got to dance kind of with the fish and you've got to work with the fish is like, that's
how change happens in higher ed is like, you kind of have to dance with the change. Like, dance
with the systems that you're working with because you can't bring, like, disruption, because
that's not where change is meaningful. And so I really learned that at higher ed is, or, I'm sorry,
at Moto Labs is the mobile app really was meant to be a digital campus that students can access
at any point in time, find resources they needed.
And that lesson really deeply informs my work at canva. So I focus mostly on being just a true
partner, not just a platform that people tend to use. And so we got to meet institutions again
where they are on their digital journey.
Also, I've just got to call it out for campuses that might be listening to this. You are super
strapped. Right. We know that campuses are extremely strapped for resources. Budgets are
getting tighter every minute, it seems, and it always has been the case. So you're constantly
operating, like, in the red. It feels so being someone on the outside at Canva that I can be
almost an extension of the campus staff and be part of their team, be their strategist. That can
move a lot quicker on the outside, get them resources that they might not have access to
internally, really making myself open to help them and be useful to them in whatever capacity I
can, just kind of as their consultant and partner, helping them do things that they. They can't
always accomplish internally, and just being someone that they can lean on.
[00:17:38] Jeff Dillon: Yeah, I think you do have the pulse of the sentiment out there now they
are strapped. Not many new positions being added in marketing teams or elsewhere.
Let's dive into Canvas a little or Canva a little bit and tell me about your role at Canva, how
you're helping campuses integrate visual communication across. Across all these departments
and the ecosystem.
[00:18:02] Mia Healy: Yeah, so the fun way of describing it is really at canva, I just partner with
colleges and universities to help integrate visual communication as a core capability across the
entire campus, so across its academic functions as well as its business functions. What's neat
about Canva too is that many universities already have insane amounts of organic adoption
happening at the student and faculty level as well as staff level.
And my role is really just to help campus leaders harness the momentum strategically. So that
means building frameworks for brand governance, accessibility, skill development, and also
ensure that so many different departments, whether they're in academic affairs or if they're
marketing and communications, that they all have the tools to create and collaborate visually
across the board. And ultimately it's not just really about helping campuses operate in the
modern creative space, but just really helping them align impact a little bit more strategically.
So a little bit about like the visual economy and how we're supporting campuses is that like in
days gone by, the world communicated in a predominantly text based, word based format. Right.
Campuses, some of them are still sending out memos, right. That was like the status quo for so
long is just sending out memos across campus, harnessing and anchoring on email to inform
students of things. And the way that we communicate has drastically changed and the world has
become so much more visual. And in a world where as a consumer, brands are constantly trying
to get your attention, try to get you to be brand loyal, try to get you into engage with their brand
campuses who are trying to inform students and donors and alumni of resources and
opportunities to interact and events and. Right. There's just so much noise out there. And so part
of my role is to help campuses really kind of cut through that noise and communicate very
directly and clearly to all of the different communities they support. So again, that could be global
communities of alumni, prospective students, current students, maybe students that are at risk,
that still need to kind of get some resources to ensure that they're successful. And students
successful success initiatives are lucrative. So helping them kind of harness all that through a
visual format and really kind of optimize how they're using Canva already.
[00:20:29] Jeff Dillon: Yeah, that all makes sense. I have to tell you my kind of my feeling about
the way Canva has kind of grown so Fast over the last decade is that When I started EdTech
Connect, it was about crowdsourcing the technology inventory out there. What are people
using? Why do they, what do they like? And sure it's about enterprise purchases, big SISs and
enterprise software. But then there's these companies like Canva that are so good at what they
do that all of a sudden they market directly to faculty end users. They have a pricing model that
works. Maybe it's a free trial or a edu pricing and all of a sudden a CIO or a leader at a campus
is like, well, we have like 300 people using this software. Maybe we should get a site license.
And. And I feel like Canva's in that boat. Like they're there, right? You kind of timed it perfectly
with the design, this design tool you have. And I come from a Photoshop background, so I
learned Photoshop decades ago. I even took some training videos. I feel I'm really good at
Photoshop. But Canva has infiltrated my time because it's so easy and so many of my peers are
using it that I spend probably half and half my time building assets in each tool just because it's
something that everybody needs.
No matter what you're going to be doing, you need to have some of that skill set and what tool is
going to be easier to use. I think Canvas got really good at is nailing that market.
[00:21:47] Mia Healy: Yeah, I mean when we're talking about like again resource strapped
campuses, like time is a huge resource and a lot of staff. I mean, you know this too from your
time at SAC State is you're wearing so many hats and IT teams have so many different
applications under their umbrella and their purview that they've got to learn, they've got to use
Canva. It just meets them exactly where they are. It's super easy. It's not another hat they have
to put on of learning a new system.
It's just really intuitive. You can like pick it up in a day and honestly have a lot of fun in it. I met
someone who said that like their personal hobby is just to create Canva decks for fun. So like
when they're like unwinding for the night after work, they like will put on Netflix or something and
they'll put on their favorite show and they will also have their laptop and be like working on a
Canva death just for fun. And I thought that was really neat.
[00:22:41] Jeff Dillon: It must be really fun to work. It's such a strong. When I was in tech sales
or people who have Told me when they're trying to sell technology, you want two things. You
want brand and you want good tech, you know, And I think Canva's one of those companies
you're like, gosh, you have. You've kind of killed it in both. Let's go into some things about what
have you seen innovation wise, what are some campuses doing or what are some innovative
ways you've seen institutions using Canva to transform learning or campus communications?
[00:23:11] Mia Healy: Yeah, there's a few different use cases that I've seen recently that are
really blown my mind. I think one of my favorites still on the academic side is seeing when
students use Canva to build out digital portfolios that can like, kind of align their coursework to
some of their career outcomes or like a job description that they're seeing and like, share that
out with employers, share that out on LinkedIn with people. That is really interactive. Like a
digital portfolio that people can actually, like, interact with the work and projects that you've done.
Like, what a cool way to take a resume and like, flip it on its head, right. And immediately show
value to other people and get them excited about what you can do and ideas that you have. So
that is one of my favorites. It's almost like a student showcase. It's really neat. But also, I think
on the administrative side, I think one of the neatest use cases truly is just like harnessing
Canva for its brand capabilities. And like, harnessing truly the brand kit function within Canva,
where you can take all of the approved logos from a campus, pop them into an approved brand
kit, then staff and faculty across the institution can apply that brand kit to their designs. And so
everyone's got the same look and feel.
And that, like, moves beyond silos, right? Everyone's using Canva in some capacity already. So,
like, kind of put the marketing and communications team in the driver's seat, provide all these
resources, take the guesswork out of interpreting brand guidelines, and inevitably getting it
wrong. I mean, I've got to just share. I've got to admit this because we were both at SAC State
together when I worked under administration and business affairs under the CFO's office.
I remember drafting up a letter using a letterhead template that someone had shared with me.
And I was going to draft up a letter and send it out to all of aba and I was just like, not super big
on the formal logo of Sacramento State at the time. I went and scoured the Internet and found
the SAC State athletics logo from that time. It was cool. It was. I Mean, that's athletics logos,
right? They're, like, energizing and neat and different and sleek. And so I popped it on the
letterhead. And now knowing on this side of Canva just how inappropriate that was, I mean, a
little slap on my wrist is like, man, if we had something like Canva, where I was using the proper
templates, the proper toolkit, of course, then I would be representing campus. And I just find that
that's. That's kind of normal, is like, helping everyone be a brand ambassador will just get the
reach so much further out there across different communities when everyone's singing the same
harmony.
[00:25:47] Jeff Dillon: Yeah. And if you can make it fun, like you said, I think Canva's fun to use.
Like, that's huge right there. That's half the battle. Can you share any sort of ways that Canva's
using AI now or coming soon or what's the. What are the most interesting AI integrations?
[00:26:04] Mia Healy: Okay, so our magic studio is incredible. There are so many different
design ingredients there that are a lot of fun to use and just generating different pieces of
artwork. Having Canva create your different decks that you might want to have for pitches for
curriculum, whatever it may be. One thing I'll share, I'll share one of my favorite AI tools. But one
of the things that is so fascinating to me, I just heard this, like, a week or two ago. We found a
report that Canva is the second most used AI platform globally, like, second to OpenAI. And we
recently just launched a really great integration with ChatGPT where you can integrate it and
connect your Canva account. And you can ask your ChatGPT if it could create a design for you
in Canva with X amount of criteria, whatever you want, and it'll pop open a Canva design. It's
just fantastic.
[00:26:54] Jeff Dillon: ChatGPT will now create Canva files Canva designs. Wow, that's cool. I
didn't know that.
[00:27:00] Mia Healy: It's incredible. So we just recently launched that. Really neat. But I think
one of my favorite parts of Canva's magic studio by far is Canva code. I've used Canva code for
some, like, personal, fun things. I take opera lessons on the side for fun, and I created my own,
like, kind of study portal as an opera student. Someone who doesn't know how to read sheet
music by trade. Right. Like, I'm. I'm learning all of those things. And so I asked canvico to help
create, like, a learning portfolio and, like, platform for me as an opera student with the resources
my instructor has provided. That's been a game changer. But also I've seen teachers on the K12
side and I've seen faculty create really cool like learning hubs for students. So they'll create a
bespoke website and Canva launch it. It's our free website that we have and make it really
interactive and you can edit, change things as you go. But Canva code is really neat. I've seen
students who've created side hustles and use Canva code to develop out pricing calculators for
their side hustles and have it be public facing so they can send it out to a customer. A customer
can get a price quote immediately for like their lawn mowing service or if a student's doing
freelance design work, they can get a price quote for creating a logo or creating other assets,
which is really neat.
[00:28:20] Jeff Dillon: I'll have to check that out because I'm getting more into using some AI
tools to code some really some prototypes and things like that. So yeah, I might have to see
what that can do. I was recently, we're trying to redoing the EdTech Connect website and I
wanted to prototype it for some developers and I started using this tool and three hours later I
had like a working prototype which is prompting from what I wanted.
[00:28:45] Mia Healy: Yeah, that's awesome.
[00:28:47] Jeff Dillon: So I've used Claude and a couple other tools but toss Canva in there.
Yeah, I'm gonna try it.
Well, what trends in higher education tech do you think we should be watching over the next two
or three years?
[00:29:00] Mia Healy: Yeah, you know, I'm really seeing three big trends that are starting to
emerge that I think will be shaping and reshaping higher education right now. The first, of
course, it's almost like obligatory that I have to say this is the rise of generative AI in teaching
and learning. So universities are moving away from a more disorganized kind of experimentation
to real implementation at this point. Right. So so many folks have kind of gone off on their own
path and started to experiment with different AI tools. I'm starting to see that those are firming up
and developing some sort of generalized ethos around how campuses are handling AI and
providing the tools to upskill staff and faculty. So using AI to enhance academic integrity, help
streamline some workflows, and then also personalize the learning experience a little bit. The
second that I'm seeing is really the shift towards digital skill building across different disciplines.
So we're seeing that communication, design and data literacy, those are like the baseline
competencies across all majors. Right. So on the academic side, it's not just creative majors, but
also now for engineers, business students, scientists. Tools like CANVA are really being
embedded into coursework to help students translate some of the really more complex learning
experiences they're having and build those out into visual landscapes that also kind of help them
hone their professionalism by taking something that's kind of swirling again in their brain and,
and put it onto a visual element there.
[00:30:34] Jeff Dillon: I like those insights. Well, if you could give one piece of advice to today's
students looking to make an impact in education or tech, what would that be?
[00:30:44] Mia Healy: I would say really gotta start where you are, use what you have and say
yes to learning moments that scare you a little bit. Part of my personal philosophy is I try to
never say no as often as possible. I try to say yes in as many ways that I can to new things.
Right. If somebody asks me to tell, like partner on a project or a different idea that they have, I
love to say yes. When I was a student, I said yes to maybe a few too many things, right? Like,
there's only so many hours in a day, but when you say yes to things, it really will open up your
worldview of how you can help others. So, like, I think I started to shift my mindset a little bit
when I was a student. Instead of thinking, like, how many accomplishments should I be trying to
strive for? Like, can I get a 4.0 GPA? Definitely didn't, but like, can I strive for that? What is the
accomplishment I'm looking for? And I started stepping away from like more of those quantitative
metrics of accomplishment and started looking more at qualitative, how can I actually help more
people? And once you start to realize that being a impactful person is how you can be useful
and you can be helpful to others and not just do things that are like, rack up some sort of
achievements, the more you start to learn, that's what life's all about too. It's like, how can I be
useful? How can I add something here and help lend a hand? So I'd say stay curious, ask
questions, ask how you can help. Ask how you can support and be mission driven about it.
[00:32:20] Jeff Dillon: And say yes to the podcast and say yes.
[00:32:22] Mia Healy: And look how much fun we're having.
[00:32:25] Jeff Dillon: You're here, so it's really great to have you, Mia. I'm going to put Mia's
links in the show notes to her LinkedIn and to Canva.
So it was really great to have you. Thank you, Mia.
[00:32:36] Mia Healy: Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate it.
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